JK Haru wa Isekai de Shoufu ni Natta

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Ch. 3
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@Kathartes which principle exactly?
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you have to respect her mental fortitude with having to deal with this shit
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Yikes we don't even get nipples
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@Faryshta
You only see benefit as some material gain, then indeed it looks like she fights for nothing. I saw her fighting to uphold her principle, so gotta disagree with you.
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@tempshempo compare the sex scene in chapter 1 and the sex scene in chapter 3. Tell me in which one her life was in danger

@Kathartes she is not fighting to protect anything or risking her life for any benefit in the long run.

Using your analogy if she were just fighting for no reason and risking her life when there are other options then yes I would call her stupid and I doubt you would disagree
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@Kathartes I'd still call it idolization, even though it's a rather twisted aggressive-possessive type. He wants to exert power over her, not destroy her, which circles back to my outlook of his personality that as long as she panders to his ego consistently, he'll be more or less satisfied. Despite how he comes off to everybody else, he still believes he's a fairly good guy, so there should be lines he won't cross.

And... yeeeeeah, I was rereading Kusuriya no Hitorigoto, which does have ownership (or themes close enough) as a central point a few times, on the same flight and somehow ended up combining elements of the two on the same layover... that, and a quick sanity check suggesting the idea that she'd intentionally lower her social position for free didn't pan out. Whoops.
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Hmm there's a lot of sex but it doesn't feel like hentai to me.. I think it's cause I feel sad that this is what some prostitutes have to endure in order to survive and prostitution is statistically a dangerous job since killers often target them as easy marks. There's also a chance of STD, abusive customers, and societal scorn.
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@Harvester
Chiba doesn't idolize her. He was a loser while she was on upper caste in their school, so now he wants to obtain her as some sort of achievement.
Btw you seem to misunderstand her position. She's selling sex service, but nobody owned her, thus nobody could buy her. Unlike other girls who got sold by their families, Haru just walked there and asked Madam for work. She could take a break or quit if she wanted to.
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@tempshempo I'm willing to give him a semi-pass on that one-- he's dumb, and I've made a fair number of cross-cultural/lingual snafus* before... given the male/female dynamic of that world, it's possible that there is no word for a maid/female servant other than 'slave' and he accidentally used it with her. Despite that, if he did intend it as 'slave' with all that it implies to modern US standards (which I'm not actually sure about-- Japan, at least in the manga-esque fields, seems to have vastly different standards for what slavery is, though I suspect this world is fairly close to what we're thinking), it still makes him more consistent and predictable which can be a preference to unpredictability. Not that it's necessarily better, but it's a state that some people find preferable.

*Fun fact: In some cultures, the term "movie shorts" is roughly equivalent to "thin books". That was a fun conversation about brand promotion that rapidly devolved into damage control.

Edit: Also, when I said 'not the worst', I meant that fairly close to literally... he's not the worst. There are better options... but at the same time, it's not as though choosing to hide behind him is absolutely unjustifiable either. He's just... not the worst possible option.
Last edited 2 mo ago by Harvester.
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@Harvester I’m sorry, but no. Chiba’s first word out of his mouth was “slave.” I was willing to give him a chance in chapter 1 up until that point.

When he quickly corrected himself and changed it to “maid” to save himself from her being angry, then in my honest opinion that showed his actual train of thought for what he wanted down the line.

Also if he wasn’t selfish, but decent person he wouldn’t need to be persuaded out of the slave-maid scenario.
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Given what we've seen so far, with some near future and reasonable inferences (don't remember exactly what's been presented so far relative to the LN), Chiba probably is a safer, more predictable option... he views himself as a good-type isekai protagonist, has the strength to back it up, and is successful at what he's doing. He also kind of idolizes her, while being rather stupid, so as long as she flatters his ego he's unlikely to get too rough nor toss her (nor the rest of the harem he'll undoubtedly form...) aside. He's not the worst choice she could make, assuming that the legal state of 'slave' doesn't come with a pile of other unpleasantries we haven't been introduced to yet... maybe persuade him to buy her out without formally enslaving her.
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@Faryshta
So every firefighter is stupid because they chose such dangerous job? Or there should be no astronaut since they could go kaboom! before leaving Earth's atmosphere?
You're judging everyone who doesn't choose the easy ways as stupidity.
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@Faryshta It’s not safer lol. Where is your proof that his attitude towards her, as a maid-slave, wouldn’t progressively get worse as she predicted herself? If you can’t see why it’s a bad idea to willingly become some otaku’s, wish fulfillment seeking weirdos, “slave” then you lack foresight.

Also over the course of this whole thing, you’ve failed to debunk any of my reasoning. All you do repeat “But it’s safer” which there isn’t a guarantee.
Last edited 2 mo ago by tempshempo.
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@tempshempo crappy yes, crappier no and definitively safer.

@Kathartes I am not judging her value,, I have nothing against prostituion per se. I am judging her stupidity on choosing to keep doing something completely dangerous which will give her no benefits at all when she has safer options.
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@Faryshta And I explained to you why the otaku option is a crappy option which would change nothing and likely would only make things awful for her.

Also, funny how you think it would be so easy for someone randomly transported to another world to find a normal job in said new world. I’m sure there’s tons of people in this fantasy world based on old European countries who would take a random, background-less, Asian looking girl for a job. No questions asked.

As if.
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@Faryshta
Different people have different sets of value, you disagreeing with their way of life doesn't mean they're stupid.
You think a comfortable life is more important. She valued her own identity as a person, not a thing to be owned (doesn't matter how the guy treats her, if she doesn't love him then get married for better condition is same thing as selling herself like a product). So two options you're talking about (one is totally shitty) are worthless to her.
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@hthjj101 no its not.

@tempshempo yes its her choice and that proves she is stupid. There are other ways to make money that doesnt put her life at risk for a couple coins. This chapter she had at least 2 options and she acted all diva about them.

she is even putting her life at risk by acting as if she were still living in japan for literally no reason.
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@Faryshta just a rough sex if you ask me, i have seen far more worse BDSM and what? they're still fine and make more of that
well, everyone has their own opinion i guess, so i should stop there ๐Ÿ˜ช
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@Faryshta It’s her choice to be there from the very beginning. And she’s working hard so she doesn’t have to deal with guys like in chapter 3 anymore since if she’s expensive then the less likely they’ll be able to afford her.

She’s making money for herself that she can use for herself. If she went with the otaku, she wouldn’t be making money because he would be providing for her which means she would have to listen to whatever creepy demands he makes of her to be able to survive.

If I were her, I would choose self-sustaining over whatever creepy isekai fantasies the otaku has too.
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Minor point that hasn't come up yet,

In addition to that, (actual spoiler, though non-specific)
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